how would steve jobs feel about the current environment as it is right now at apple? >> well, again, i'm not inside of apple. i'm outside of apple looking at it. >> but you knew the way he thought about the world, and -- >> sure. steve jobs lived in a world of black and white. no compromises, perfectionist, he believed that you had to keep pushing the edges of innovation. and apple is still doing that. what apple is doing right now is it's building out the follow-on evolution very successful products like the ipad. now we have the ipad mini. so i think apple has got a few years of being able to do that. at some point, it's got to do something beyond that. >> john, there have been some notable stumbles in apple's past and in the recent past they have been able to surmount them and push them aside. what do you think is the biggest risk, whether product risk or execution risk in china, et cetera. if it you're long apple, what is the one thing that maybe makes you somewhat cautious going into the next year to 18 months? >> well, it's certainly not supply chain. apple know